[Open-transport] The open transport vocabulary: the public transport part

Wed Jul 24 13:23:15 UTC 2013

Hello

Interesting start ...
As an input, here are 2 links

 1. Official Transmodel 5.1 (english & french) glossary :
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/evcdq34tu9in4sd/Fr_En_Term_definitions_for%20TM_V5.1_V1.xls
 2. The NeTEx glossary (english only, merging part of Transmodel with
    some updates, and full IFOPT) :
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5u91tq6tamimsf/NeTEx%20%28Transmodel-IFOPT%29%20Dictionnary.xls

I'm sorry, I would like to contribute more on this topic, but I'm quite 
busy these days.

Having a first look to the proposed definition, I think we have to be 
really careful with words like STOP POINT (renamed SCHEDULED STOP POINT 
in NeTEx to avoid any confusion), because they are very widely used with 
a lot of very different meanings (usually depending on where you are 
from: passenger information, AVMS, planing, ticketing, operating, etc.).
Therefore, at CEN level we have defined a set of different concepts 
(mainly, SCHEDULED STOP POINT, STOP AREA, STOP PLACE, QUAY and BOARDING 
POSITION). That's probably too much for everyday use in passenger 
information, and I agree with the STOP POINT / STOP AREA selection you 
have proposed: but we have to be as precise as possible on the 
definitions in order to avoid any confusion with other concepts.

Cordialement

Aurige

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Le 24/07/2013 13:00, open-transport-request at lists.okfn.org a écrit :
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> From: Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org>
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> Hi all,
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> I'm in Paris with Tristram and we have started work on the Open Transport
> vocabulary (the public transport part). It is mainly based on what
> Navitia.io made using the transmodel vocabulary.
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> https://github.com/OpenTransport/vocabulary/tree/master/publictransport
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> If you don't like something, edit the markdown file, send us a pull request
> (or file an issue to discuss if you're not sure).
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> Also, feel free to start working on the private transport counterpart.
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> Kind regards,
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> Pieter & Tristram
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