[Okfn-pk] Suggestions by Mr. Mohsin

Thu Mar 12 03:25:31 UTC 2015

Hello Mohsin,

I hope you have seen the spreadsheet. I am going to assign you the task. I
will take care of following data columns: Name of Public Body, Type of
Organization, Controlling Body, and Website. Whereas, you will have to add
Address, Contact Nos. (max. 2), Fax Nos. (max. 2), Email Address(es) (max.
2), Keys and their corresponding Value. As regard Keys and Values, they
will contain information relevant to the organization e.g. Key: Telephone
List, Value: URL of the telephone list available on the official website of
the body.

We can also add a link to the wikipedia page about the organization in the
key value pair.

Some organizations don't have a public website therefore I have added a
brief about them from the website of their Controlling Body in the Key
Value Pair.

You will be able to find the information on which you are going to work at
the official website of public bodies. You are required to provide max. 2
contact nos. and 2 fax nos. Kindly add city code with the numbers and also
take of formatting (First word capital, proper use of commas and spaces
etc). While copying and pasting data to spreadsheet, right click on the
cell and choose Paste Special then Paste Value only.

In case of any confusion feel free to ask me.

With Regards,

*Nouman Nazim*

Ambassador / Group Lead
Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sure. I have created an Online Spreadsheet on Google Drive to collect and
> record details about Public Bodies in Pakistan. I have added you as an
> editor so that you can add, edit or delete data. I hope you have received
> email with the requisite link. Others can view the data at the following
> link:-
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NM9Ffc3_3kDYLZw2MnmgrAZ1WNePkw0pzzXnsPv36pM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I will get back to you in the evening and will let you know about further
> details. We will then start working on it.
>
>
>
> *Nouman Nazim*
>
> Ambassador / Group Lead
> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
> M: +92 336 5101166
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:57 PM, mohsin khawaja <email at mohsinkhawaja.me>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds Great, let's get started.
>> But.. Where do we begin and What I can do/Contribute ?
>>
>> ===
>> Mohsin Khawaja
>> +92-3223225433
>> http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the prompt reply. Well, one important aspect of Open Data is
>>> that it should be machine readable so that developers / coders can access
>>> it programmatically and build useful apps upon it. Machine readable data
>>> formats include XML, JSON, CSV whereas closed file formats include .PDF,
>>> .DOC etc.
>>>
>>> We should start gathering data about Public Bodies in Pakistan by
>>> creating an online Excel Spreadsheet on Google Docs. We can convert Excel
>>> Spreadsheet into CSV, JSON or XML to make it machine readable. We will
>>> upload same data on a local (our own) instance of CKAN. CKAN comes with an
>>> API and it will allow civic coders to access that that from our portal and
>>> develop web / mobile app upon it. You can access or share that data on wiki
>>> or any portal you want as the data will be in open format and free to share.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hear from you.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>
>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
>>> M: +92 336 5101166
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>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:00 PM, mohsin khawaja <email at mohsinkhawaja.me
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> it can be an excellent idea/project.
>>>> I checked the data at publicbodies.org/ - for UK, US and EU - it is
>>>> very incomplete.
>>>> Just names of the bodies and websites. Addresses and many other
>>>> attributes are missing.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways we can start for PK. And I think a Wiki style is much better
>>>> than previously discussed options - because in this way - the updation of
>>>> data is possible in a much better way. I had created a wiki for a project
>>>> http://certificationsdirectory.com/ and no matter how limited the
>>>> scope is - it is much convenient to keep it updated and collaborate with a
>>>> team. But still it is a suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>> Mohsin Khawaja
>>>> +92-3223225433
>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, it is indeed a good project to start but as per my personal
>>>>> opinion we first need to gather and list all the Public Bodies in
>>>>> Pakistan —that is government-run or -controlled organizations. Examples
>>>>> include federal as well as provincial ministries or departments, and
>>>>> state-run organizations. At present there is no such database containing
>>>>> Name, Address, and Contact No. of Public Bodies in Pakistan. One such
>>>>> project of Open Knowledge (Intl.) is running at the following link:-
>>>>>
>>>>> http://publicbodies.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Your suggestions in this regard will be highly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>>>
>>>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
>>>>> M: +92 336 5101166
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:51 PM, mohsin khawaja <
>>>>> email at mohsinkhawaja.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> then do you think it is a good project to start with for OKFN-PK or
>>>>>> not ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Nouman Nazim <nouman.nazim at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Mohsin, Yes I have worked as NGOs Monitoring Officer in
>>>>>>> Pakistan under Ministry of Interior but before coming to the point I would
>>>>>>> like to clear 2-3 things which will help you in achieving the planned
>>>>>>> tasks. There is no single body of law that governs NGOs in
>>>>>>> Pakistan. There are between 10 to 18 different laws in Pakistan
>>>>>>> that may govern an NGO. First of all SECP register nationwide
>>>>>>> Non-Profit Companies under Section 42 of the Companies Ordinance, 1984.
>>>>>>> There are three other major laws dealing with registration of NGOs /
>>>>>>> Non-profit organizations in Pakistan which are as under:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i) Voluntary Social Welfare Agencies, 1961
>>>>>>> ii) Societies Registration Act, 1860
>>>>>>> iii) Trust Act, 1882
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Registration cases falling under the laws mentioned at serial no.
>>>>>>> (i) and (ii) are undertaken by the Registrar of NGOs appointed in each
>>>>>>> District of Pakistan. Whereas, registration cases under Trust Act (sr. no.
>>>>>>> iii) are managed by Tehsildar Office located in all the Districts of
>>>>>>> Pakistan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As regard International NGOs interested in working under Pakistan,
>>>>>>> they are required to obtain approval from the Establishment Division as
>>>>>>> well as thorough clearance from National Security Agencies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keeping in view the fact that there are multiple authorities dealing
>>>>>>> with registration of NGOs / Non-Profit Organizations in Pakistan at
>>>>>>> National as well as District level, there is no single database containing
>>>>>>> record / registration details of all those NGOs. Many private organizations
>>>>>>> tried to collect the record about NGOs registered / working in different
>>>>>>> cities / villages of Pakistan which can be found online at following links:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ngos.org.pk/
>>>>>>> http://www.unesco.org.pk/documents/Directory%20of%20NGOs.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ngoworldpk.com/ngo-introduction/download-full-ngo-directory-(pakistan)/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/thecivilsocietyforumofpakistan/Pakistan-nonprofits-directory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Above mentioned links does not provide the complete list of all the
>>>>>>> NGOs registered / working in Pakistan. Total number of NGOs registered in
>>>>>>> Islamabad only are more than 3000 (list can be produced). An estimated
>>>>>>> number of NGOs registered / working in whole Pakistan is 30,000+ and at
>>>>>>> present there is no single database available with any Government Agency
>>>>>>> which contains all those NGOs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org>
>>>>>>> M: +92 336 5101166
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM, mohsin khawaja <
>>>>>>> email at mohsinkhawaja.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AoA,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I noticed that you worked as "NGOs Monitoring Officer" - a while
>>>>>>>> back i was looking for a complete list of NGOs in Pakistan - but couldn't
>>>>>>>> find it. Can you help me get this dataset ? i will try to share and promote
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>> Mohsin Khawaja
>>>>>>>> +92-3223225433
>>>>>>>> http://linkedin.com/in/khmohsin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Nouman Nazim <
>>>>>>>> nouman.nazim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Mohsin,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all welcome to this discussion list. I am reproducing
>>>>>>>>> your suggestions, from my personal email, here:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i) Ask corporations, specially dealing with food and health care
>>>>>>>>> products, to open their manufacturing & raw material policies [data] so
>>>>>>>>> that consumers can make rational choices rather than emotional following of
>>>>>>>>> brands under the influence of advertisement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ii) An online platform / forum / wiki to raise public awareness
>>>>>>>>> about how Government works in Pakistan and provide answers
>>>>>>>>> to frequently asked questions about Government functions / services.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the current members of Open Knowledge Pakistan (OKP)
>>>>>>>>> discussion list are requested to provide their views / opinions on the
>>>>>>>>> suggestions of Mr. Mohsin and how Open Knowledge Pakistan can undertake
>>>>>>>>> such initiatives.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My opinions in this regard are as under:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i) We can establish Open Product Data Working Group under the
>>>>>>>>> umbrella of OKP to campaign for Open Product Data in Pakistan by contacting
>>>>>>>>> and writing to leading local products manufacturers and request them to
>>>>>>>>> Open their products data. There is the working group titled:
>>>>>>>>> "Open Product Data" working under Open Knowledge (Intl.) to build a public
>>>>>>>>> database of product data. Here are the links of their websites:-
>>>>>>>>> http://product.okfn.org and http://product-open-data.com. After
>>>>>>>>> obtaining data from local products manufactures we can add that to Global
>>>>>>>>> Open Product Data database besides establishing our own local portal which
>>>>>>>>> will allow users to easily access data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ii) As regard public awareness on how Government Work, we can
>>>>>>>>> launch an online portal like following:-
>>>>>>>>> http://answers.oaklandnet.com/ to answer questions about
>>>>>>>>> different functions / services provided by the Government of Pakistan. The
>>>>>>>>> aforementioned website is using open source platform titled Honolulu
>>>>>>>>> Answers <http://www.codeforamerica.org/apps/honolulu-answers/> and
>>>>>>>>> Ms. Sheba Najmi, Founder, Code for Pakistan
>>>>>>>>> <http://codeforpakistan.org> played a vital role in developing
>>>>>>>>> this platform. We can deploy Honolulu Answers
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.codeforamerica.org/apps/honolulu-answers/> in
>>>>>>>>> Pakistan and request Ms. Sheba Najmi for her suggestions / guidance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Nouman Nazim*
>>>>>>>>> Ambassador / Group Lead
>>>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Pakistan <http://pk.okfn.org/>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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