[open-science] open access perils? (#RIP @aaronscwarz)

Sun Jan 13 14:30:46 UTC 2013

Hi,

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Matthew Brett <matthew.brett at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Thomas Kluyver <takowl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12 January 2013 18:50, Matthew Brett <matthew.brett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I feel you have just repeated what I was complaining about: you do not
>>> want to comment on the whole of what happened to Assange because you
>>> don't want to get into discussion of a rape case and you don't want to
>>> discuss the whole of what happened to Swartz because he was depressed.
>>>
>>> Well, I know how it goes, but it's hard not to comment.
>>
>>
>> I'm happy to have discussions or comment on either of those things, but I
>> want to avoid simply portraying them as some kind of martyrs, paying the
>> price for what they believe. Assange might be using his fame from Wikileaks
>> to avoid facing real charges, which would make him a poor example to hold
>> up.
>>
>> Swartz did suffer as a result of his actions for openness, but it would be
>> wrong to imply that his suicide was a direct result of that. My
>> understanding is that suicide rarely has a single cause.
>
> But Thomas, where did I say that suicide has a single cause?

Relevant to same: "Please don’t pathologize this story":

http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully

Best,

Matthew