[Okfn-dk] Noter fra OKFN-DK meetup, 22. april 2014

Sun Apr 27 11:05:09 UTC 2014

Hey Niels,

Thanks for the big effort to find funding, build a community and consult
with experts.

About the issues with making an interface.
You might well have done this already… but just in case : I'm in touch with
various university (humanities-centred) ICT-related research groups
interested in making an open society. I could ask them if they're
interested investigating how one could make a relevant interface.

All the best,

miska

On 27 April 2014 13:58, Niels Erik Kaaber Rasmussen
<niels at buhlrasmussen.eu>wrote:

> Hi
>
> As I has mentioned to some of you already, I've looked into the
> possibility of making a Danish WhatDoTheyKnow-site. There has been interest
> in making such a site from different people especially as a response to the
> new FOI-law. Together with interested parties I started thinking about how
> it could be made, we found funding and we even found a starting point to
> create a community around the platform. One of the people I worked with on
> the idea contacted different experts and made research in how to
> interpretate the FOI law and translate it to a website. However  it was
> found to be too difficult to create a simple WhatDoTheyKnow-site which
> could in a meaningful way provide a useful interface for the Danish
> FOI-law. I don't know the details of why exactly this is, but I will try to
> go back and ask.
>
> Best, Niels Erik
> ---
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>
>
> On 2014-04-25 14:35, miska knapek wrote:
>
>> Hej alle,
>>
>> ( I'll write this in English for everyone to be aboard )
>>
>> There were some the meetings notes about wanting an Freedom of
>> Information requests help + tracking system, like MySociety's
>> WhatDoTheyKnow project - in Denmark.
>>
>> Perhaps OKF Finland might be able to lend a helping hand…
>>
>> OKF Finland is setting up an instance of  a OKFN.de FOI
>> issuing/tracking project called Friode
>> ( http://stefanw.github.io/froide/ [3] ) . Froide is currently the
>> engine powering the German FOI site https://fragdenstaat.de/ [4].
>>
>>   ( OKF Finland is also planning to do something about updating the
>> graphic design - with all respect to the current german aesthetics
>> ;)
>>
>> All's that needs to happen is that the system is translated into the
>> relevant language - eg. Danish - and for the relevant ministry/agency
>> contact details to be be entered into the system.   To make things
>> heasy, the hosting and server maintenance of the service can happen
>> initially via OKF Finland, while it might well make sense to transfer
>> it to a local server with time.
>>
>> The translation of the site can happen rather easily. It's based on
>> Django ( python ), all the texts are stored in one file, and there are
>> online sites which allow a community to collaboratively translate the
>> texts from one of the said files, and get a new localised file for
>> use.   So as long as people know how to translate, it's just another
>> regular webinterface that people need to use.
>>
>> So, this is one possible way that Denmark could get a FOI system going
>> rather quickly.
>>
>> OKF Finland is already involved in getting Froide installed in Sweden,
>> and we're in discussions with OKF Norway and Iceland to also install
>> the system going there.
>>
>> So, what do you think?
>> I realise establishing a consensus online is a bit tricky, but any
>> general notes and reflections are entirely welcome!
>>
>> Thanks and all the best,
>>
>> miska
>>
>>  2014-04-24 15:43 GMT+03:00 Christian Villum <villum at autofunk.dk>:
>>
>>  Hej alle,
>>>
>>> Vi havde et rigtigt godt meetup tidligere på ugen, hvor der bl.a.
>>> var flere nye ansigter til stede - velkommen til alle!
>>>
>>> Noterne kan findes her:
>>>
>>>  https://docs.google.com/a/autofunk.dk/document/d/1apiXamYnGeu2vAI9VeE_
>> m5QUSHMBY8h0oBfFinjLpqE/edit
>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>>
>>> Eventuelle kommentarer er meget velkomne her på listen.
>>>
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>> mob. +358-50-320-2616
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>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/a/autofunk.dk/document/d/1apiXamYnGeu2vAI9VeE_
>> m5QUSHMBY8h0oBfFinjLpqE/edit
>> [2] https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-dk
>> [3] http://stefanw.github.io/froide/
>> [4] https://fragdenstaat.de/
>> [5] http://knapek.org
>> [6] http://twitter.com/miskaknapek
>> [7] http://vimeo.com/miska
>> [8] http://flickr.com/miska_too/sets
>>
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